Don’t let the sign fool you. Welcomed, I was not.
It all started while on a walk with Helen on the Trans-Canada Trail east of Toronto.
Helen will stop and read every memorial plaque we encounter on our travels – without exception – and on this particular day we found one honouring the maker of the machinery that puts the caramel in the Caramilk bar.
Cadbury? Did someone mention my favourite purveyor of chocolatey delights?
The only online references I could find to Mr Lester were to his 2016 obituary which appeared to now be closed to access. I did however discover that Cadbury had a chocolate factory here in Toronto. How could I have not known this earlier?!!
When it comes to chocolate, I tend to move swiftly and decisively, so without delay I embarked on the journey to an area of the city known as Dufferin Grove.
I found a very large, nondescript box of a building … and a large, imposing security guard.
“No, there aren’t any public tours except for school groups.”
“No, there is no public access to the factory museum except for school groups.”
“Please, I must insist you stop taking photos … especially of the signage.”
So I skulked away quietly.
Sometimes adventures end in disappointment.
It had occurred to me to striking them about doing a tale. I, on the other(a) hand, love them … perhaps too much 😉
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[…] was the day I went looking for the Cadbury chocolate factory. I had taken public transit to avoid driving downtown on a Friday afternoon … life is too […]
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It seems so surprising that they wouldn’t let you take photos of the outside! I must admit that I’m one of the few people who finds no appeal in Cadbury eggs.
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I think there are many in your company. Most people *claim* they don’t like them. I, on the other hand, love them … perhaps too much 😉
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Joanne my suggestion is to inquire by saying you are media and want to do a story of the factory or sweets in Toronto. when I Google it there have been articles written. Find a unique take on the story and pitch it to them. Of course you will need a tour to be part of your research. 🙂
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I found stories about tours too. It appears they were doing tours until a few years ago.
It had occurred to me to contact them about doing a story. I would have to get over a huge amount of shyness first!
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See if you can find an email and connect that way perhaps?
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I think I need you as a social director 😉
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That could be fun! Next thing I will have you starring in your own videos. 🙂
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hahahahaha!!!!
Oh, you were serious? 😉
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Fuck you Willy Wonka! 😀
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hahaha!! 🙂
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You definitely deserve free chocolate for all of your efforts, Joanne!
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My hips should be grateful that I didn’t 😉
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How silly of them!!
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No argument from me 🙂
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We really need to look at getting you an “official” blogger badge so you can gain access anywhere u want 🙂
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woohoo. Wouldn’t that come in handy?!! 🙂
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I think it would!!
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Yes, they do :))
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One of the fun things about being a blogger is that even when things don’t go well, it can still make a good story 🙂
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I’ve been through the Hobart Cadbury factory. It was so good!!!!
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Jealous!! I’m guessing they wouldn’t let photography inside the factory … but did you get samples?!
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Wow, that’s really not very inviting and welcoming!
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Cadbury’s is rubbish anyways. It’s only recently they actually started putting proper chocolate in their goods because the EU said they couldn’t call it chocolate unless chocolate was in the recipe.
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It’s sad that the only way to get companies to do the *right* thing is to legislate it.
Cadbury chocolate in Canada is quite good. It really is my favourite … but I don’t know what it’s like any where else. I understand that formulations are different from country to country to conform with the standards of that area.
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Cadbury chocolates are delicious, but sound like they need to re-visit their no photo policy. In an age of social media, their rudeness will be noticed. As you’ve so graciously pointed out.
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In fairness, the security guard was actually very nice – almost apologetic. However it is still rather baffling.
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I’m glad the security guard was pleasant, but what company doesn’t want people [customers] to know more about it? Baffling, is right.
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I think there is a magical beast in there that poops out chocolate. Kids just think it’s funny, an adult might call the health department. 😉
Maybe you can hire some kids to go with you next time?
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Hahaha Joanne you will just have to volunteer your services as organizer of school field trips!!! Accompany that field trip and any others that pique your interest, tolerate a bunch of noisy school kids in a bus and then quit with your belly full of chocolate!
Peta
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Oh Peta – I can’t imagine anything that I want to do so badly that I would volunteer as a chaperone with a group of school children. We’re talking the stuff of nightmares now!! {shudder} 😉
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Well! Only let school children in for tours. I think they’re missing the boat on that score. Maybe a call to the PR dept. and ask to have a tour and get some historical information for your blog?
I hope you got some chocolate somewhere after that at least. I know I’d be craving some.
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The truth is I always have a stash of chocolate in the house. You know, for emergency purposes 😉
Yes – it’s Cadbury 🙂
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Would Willy Wonka have treated you so badly? I think not!
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I’ve managed to avoid Willy Wonka my entire life. I don’t know why, it just never appealed to me.
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I didn’t even know there’s really a Willy Wonka in your part of the world, Joanne!? We don’t have them here. I was referring to the character from the book & movies, not knowing that there’s really a company by that name. I hope they paid Roald Dahl a fortune for using his IP for profit!
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hahaha!! No, I was actually referring to the book and the movie. I’ve managed to avoid reading the former and seeing the latter 🙂
For some reason, I found the trailer to the movie creepy.
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Cadbury is near the top of my list of totally-sold-out-wouldn’t-buy-if-you-paid me brands.
It’s so sad that the company has gone from a socially forward-thinking family firm that built a whole village for its workers, to just another multi-national food conglomerate. They totally lost me when they started putting palm oil in the chocolate, which is a shame because I had no boycotting power left when they decided to close their (profitable) factory in NZ with the loss of 350 jobs — in a town where those jobs had a huge economic impact. There was a huge crowd-funded attempt to buy the factory and keep some of the products being made here, but I think that has fallen apart.
Luckily, we have an excellent NZ owned and run chocolate manufacturer (Whittakers) which not only produces much better chocolate than Cadburys (including caramel-filled bars), but seems to manage to do so both profitably and ethically.
Major relief, since I’m not sure my desire to be an ethical consumer could survive a total loss of chocolate.
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{gasp!} A life without chocolate is unthinkable!!
What you describe is how I feel about Nestle. Fortunately I’m not a huge fan of their various brands, but the sadness is that the ‘soul’ of a company changes as it grows. By the time they become major conglomerates, their soul has become an artificial marketing mask. For all the good they do, and claim to do, there is also the inevitable damage … artificial ingredients, declining product quality, ‘right-sizing’ through automation and off-shoring, etc.
Like you, I’m cheering for the small local startups.
However, out of curiosity, I took a look at the chocolate I have in the house – Lindt (my husband’s preference) and Cadbury (mine). Neither of them have palm oil – or any oil – in them.
As an aside, I learned recently that product formulations are different from country to country. In Canada, chocolate cannot be marketed as “chocolate” if it contains oil – commonly used in products with chocolate coatings. If it does, it has to be advertised/packaged as only chocolate-flavoured.
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I feel that way about Nestle too!
Cadbury here eventually bowed to local pressure about the palm oil, and apparently removed most of it (from the “local” chocolate), but a lot of damage was already done to the brand. And it came at a time when Whittakers was expanding and heavily promoting itself as truly local, fair-trade and as “proper” chocolate.
I guess it makes sense that formulations would have to change to meet local food standards. Our standards must be lower than yours 🙂
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No access to the chocolate factory for one of its biggest fans? Really? What kind of heathen was that security guard?
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I don’t blame the security guard … he was actually ok. It’s just that his message sucked and why shoot the messenger? I’m pretty sure it wasn’t his fault 😦
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Good for you for following the signs (literally) Joanne, even though it ended in disappointment.
The best plaque I ever saw was on an old house in downtown Toronto. Expecting it to be one of those historic plaques, I walked closer only to read, “On this place in 1867, absolutely nothing happened.”
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That would have made me laugh out loud!! Too funny. I love it when I encounter something unusual like that 😀
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Joanne, That’s terrible…I’d say that I’d join you in a boycott but I don’t think that I could follow through without an intervention to cure my chocolate addiction! Judy
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So you understand my dilemma
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I’m supposed to be getting ready for work but how can I resist a post about chocolate?? It’s always disappointing when chocolate factories don’t live up to our Roald Dahl fantasies. What you need to do is find yourself some friends with school aged friends and offer your services as a volunteer on excursions. Personally, I’d probably be desperate enough to get in that place to start calling schools and asking if they’re going to the chocolate factory this year and can I come please?
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I can’t imagine ever being desperate enough to go anywhere by volunteering as a chaperone on a children’s school trip.
I barely survived my own two children with my sanity intact … and even that’s debatable.
Maybe someone at Cadbury will read this and contact me for a private tour.
… I live in a fantasy land 😉
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Fair enough. 😃 Me, I love an excursion. But I’m mentally unstable.
Maybe….maybe…. I’d definitely work on that angle. 😊
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Either you had a pre-existing condition, or your job with children contributed to your level of instability 😉
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HOW can you be more dangerous or unwieldy than a group of schoolchildren?!? Good gravy!
There are two local places I want to get info about possible tours — Hostess and IMI building materials. I hope they do give tours and I hope they allow photos. If not, I will share my bummer moments as well.
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That’s the spirit! It’s a story either way 🙂
Quite frankly, my biggest disappointment was the building itself. Not even an interesting door anywhere in sight.
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So bummer.
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Did you look like a terrorist? No photos of signs? Yikes!
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hmmm – a chubby 60-some year old, shaped like a weeble? Maybe it was the backpack 😉
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Ha ha. There is a Cadbury factory here in Hobart. They have a shop and video info for the public but they stopped actual tours of the factory several years ago.
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I appreciate that health and safety regulations are getting tougher and tougher in the food industry.
… but Hobart has a shop!!!
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Lol
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Awe, major bummer. I would quickly do all I could to assemble a group of sixth graders and then pretend that I got left back a multitude of times.
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I knew it was going to be a long shot since I couldn’t find anything about tours online. I just think it’s an odd form of discrimination 🙂
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Too funny, Joanne…Cadbury is great chocolate…but who knew they were such elitists about it. 🙂
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Maybe I should be happy that my chocolate isn’t at risk of contamination from any old riff-raff off the street.
… but no photos outdoors?! I mean, really … it wasn’t all that interesting to begin with 😉
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Joanne I see a school bus field trip in your future 🙂 Please don’t commandeer a school bus ask to borrow it nicely !
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I can see the headlines now ….
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You know what I like to do when I suffer a disappointment like that? Go eat some chocolate! 🙂
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We think alike, my friend!! 🙂
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Mmmmm, Caramilk – looks good! Why don’t we get that in the UK??
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I think your version might be Caramello?
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One of my favorite photos (wish I could find it!), was a picture of a beautiful, rustic door that said “No photographers – deliveries only.”
Great story – I hope your next adventure ends with some sweet and chocolate 🙂
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… but why no photographers?!! Especially if it was a beautiful rustic door!! Sometimes I just don’t understand – I just do as I’m told … or a reasonable approximation thereof 😉
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I KNOW!!!
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Who knew a camera and a public door wouldn’t go together. 🙂
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I know! I still can’t imagine what the harm is in taking photos outdoors.
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I do not understand why someone is not allowed to take a photo of a sign. And when did a sign become “signage”? Is that supposed to make it more important? If you want to take a picture of a band, does the road manager ask that you not take a photo of the “bandage”? I give up.
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bwahahaha!! That’s a good one, Emilio! 😀
… but I wasn’t about to argue with him.
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Cadbury used to have a location in South Oshawa, near the base of Thickson road. My friend’s father worked there. It was fully owned by the British company back then.
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I always thought it would be cool to work in a chocolate factory. I wonder if I would ever grow tired of it.
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The smell of the cocoa oil gets over powering. We did one of those chocolate bar fundraisers a few years back and after unloading thousands of chocolate bars I did not think I could look at another one. Good thing I got over that 🙂
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Actually, I’ve been looking for something that would break my chocolate addiction for years. Sadly, nothing’s worked so far.
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It seems you are finding a lot of ‘no photos’ locations on your journey 🙂
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I know! Don’t they know I’m a world-famous blogger? 😉
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wow that is rude- I would email the CEO- but that’s just me 🙂 to let him know how poorly you were treated. And no photos? They should be glad for the free advertising!! You just might get some free samples and a personal tour if you let them know what happened!
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I know! As Dan said, only a meanie would turn away a chocolate fan … especially an über chocolate fan. I’m sure that I alone could bring their annual Cadbury Creme Egg sales to its knees. I should be legend 😉
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I’m out here in San Francisco where chocolate means Ghirardelli! They do have a factory you can tour (not in the City but down in San Leandro) .
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hmmm – this got me thinking.
According to my research, Cadbury has a facility in Trinidad/Tobago that has tours 3 days a week.
Perhaps I should go THERE for a Cadbury tour … say, in February.
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Darn. Too bad you couldn’t go in. They should take the “welcome” off their sign. Or you’ll have to call the school about tours and see if they need a chaperone! 😀
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A random person off the street offering to be a chaperone on school trips wouldn’t possibly set off alarms bells … especially if the offer was only for chocolate tours 😉
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Ha ha ha. I suppose. 😀
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Oh boo; I think you need to leak your post with a note that it is viewed worldwide. I don’t eat much candy and Cadbury is not on my shopping list now or in the future. Guess they also don’t realize that it’s the parents and mostly the grandparents that buy candies for the (school)children and P.O. a consumer is not good customer service.
Come visit CA and see the Ghiradelli chocolates or the Jelly Belly Factory (they welcome everyone of all ages).
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Jelly Bellies!! Now we’re talking!! 😀
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Sorry that your adventure didn’t end in a tour WITH tastings!
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… and I was willing to sacrifice myself with all the rejects …
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I visited the Cadbury factory in Bournville many years ago to look at their new Xerox colour copier ! (when Cadbury’s were still a British company, it’s owned by a large food corporation now) They loaded us up with chocolates to take home 🙂 Now I buy Thorntons chocolates (Italian) love their chocolate gingers, or Fairtrade. Think of the calories you saved 😉
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I’m curious why you went to see their Xerox copier?
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At the time it was their latest machine and one of the first installed in the UK. The company I worked for were interested in getting one, and we did.
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That’s good. I work for Xerox 🙂
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My career was in the printing industry, and I got to know Xerox machines from the early 1980’s, 9200 & 9400, great machines for their time. Xerox were a good company to deal with.
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I would expect nothing less than to go home armed with samples 😉
… but as you say, I should consider myself lucky to have dodged all the calories.
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How very rude! Perhaps you could be a volunteer at a school next time they take a group there? Of course that would take extensive planning and timing…
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Funny! That’s exactly what the security guard said!
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😉
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How can you work with chocolate every day and be mean?
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In fairness to him, the security guard was actually very polite and *almost* apologetic.
I’m going to cut him some slack and not shoot the messenger.
But seriously, Mr Cadbury! What are you thinking?!
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Sounds like a bit of age descrimination to me, but enjoyed that you surreptitiously included signage in your blog. Ha!!
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Exactly! I was thinking the same thing and resisted the temptation to play the discrimination card. Is it my fault I’m old?!!
Besides, it’s us old-timers who never outgrew our love of chocolate who deserve the greatest kindness! 😉
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I knew it, chocolate is magic and probably made by magical creatures. Oh, my imagination runs wild now. Time to get a truffle out of the drawer. 🙂
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Chocolate is one of the highest forms of magic. I bet they have unicorns in there and didn’t want me to find out.
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Well, that was a bit unfriendly – public tours seems appropriate, since it is the public that supports the product. Hershey, PA welcomed us happily and gave us chocolate!
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The Hershey tours are legendary and perhaps one day I will finally make my way to Pennsylvania to see for myself.
Sadly, I don’t particularly like Hershey chocolate, but one must pay homage to the delightfully addictive confection 🙂
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Glad you got that picture of the signage. That’ll show ’em. But I can understand why they don’t have public tours. I read in a book how many people come up missing in chocolate factory tours. They dive into vats of chocolate, try to swim in chocolate rivers, and get cut to pieces trying to grab bars as they pass through chopping equipment. Insurance companies refuse to cover public tours anymore.
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Yeah – I get it too …. but then why school tours?!
What I really didn’t understand was the objection to taking photos – outdoors.
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School tours are okay, because it teaches children a lesson in impulse control, and weeds out slow learners.
It seems weird they don’t allow outdoor photos. Maybe you were just dealing with a bored security guard who wanted some excuse to show a little authority.
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I thought the photo thing was odd too. I mean, what could I possibly be taking a photo of outdoors that was a security risk – or a threat to intellectual property?
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Wow – I’ve heard of the Caramilk secret, but seriously? Thanks for trying!
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The mystery remains …
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Ahhh, what a bummer. To make you feel better, I don’t know what Caramilk is and have never tasted it. Imagine the pain! You could try telling them what we told to the guy at the Savica waterfall: We are four kids. He gave us students’ discount.
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What?! That sounds like a great story!
I’m not surprised you don’t know a Caramilk bar. From what I understand, it is a distinctly Canadian thing and is made only in this particular factory in Toronto.
There is however a version of this bar in the US, New Zealand and Australia known as Caramello.
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Now we’re talking…Caramello, I know well 😍😍😍
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What’s not to love? Caramel combined with chocolate. Sounds perfect to me!
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Nope, nothing on Caramello over here either… Not much of a story – a friend went to buy tickets and he came back with discounts and told us what happened. 😀
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…Like, ever
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They made that more embarrassing than it needed to be 😲😲😲 You should have just shouted that discontinuing the Wispa was the worst mistake they have *ever* made! That’d show ’em.
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I had to go research a Wispa bar … they never made it to Canada. It sounds like it should have been a winner. Personally I think Cadbury chocolate is superior to Nestle chocolate, so while I’m not a fan of the Aerobar, I might have been of the Wispa.
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I still grieve the loss of the Wispa…I’ve never quite forgiven them. 😒 Cadbury *is* superior in all ways. Agreed!
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